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Steel beams in wall constructions in Openstudio model

asked 2016-01-18 23:17:03 -0500

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updated 2016-01-19 16:19:22 -0500

Hi,

I am confused as to how I can model a wall that is surrounded by steel I beams in Openstudio. I have found the correct components for the wall itself.

My questions is: Is it possible to integrate the steel I beams in the wall construction or do I have to draw the steel beams in my model and assign them to 'steel' component? Also is it actually worth it? (the building has a I Beam steel structure) Here's a rough sketch of my wall

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Thank you for your help!

Here's a photo of one of the walls of the building

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I'm having trouble getting the big picture of how your wall construction is actually like. Steel has a very high thermal conductivity, so I'd say that it's really critical you take it into account iif it's creating a thermal bridge.

Julien Marrec's avatar Julien Marrec  ( 2016-01-19 02:58:03 -0500 )edit

@Julien Marrec, Ok thanks. To give you a bit of context: - The building is in Thailand - It is a three story buidling with a steel I beam skeleton

I've edited my question to show a picture of one of the walls of the building.

My question still remains, how would I model this in Openstudio?

olivier's avatar olivier  ( 2016-01-19 16:14:12 -0500 )edit

Ah yes now I understand!

Julien Marrec's avatar Julien Marrec  ( 2016-01-20 01:53:49 -0500 )edit

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answered 2016-01-20 02:06:17 -0500

updated 2016-01-20 02:50:04 -0500

The picture is really helpful to undersand what you have really. Neglecting the corners, what you end up having is a repeatable pattern of half of a panel, an I-Beam and then another half of a panel1.

The I-Beam will have a substantially lower R-value, or a higher U-value, meaning heat will tend to flow through it a lot more. This will create a pretty strong thermal bridge.

Now there are different ways you can take that into account, depending on how much work you want to do:

  • The crude way: take the area-weighted U-value. $\frac{(UA)_{beam} * (UA)_{wall}}{A_{beam} + A_{wall}}
  • The librarian way (useful for QA/QC too...): try to find your wall construction in a library of effective wall R/U-value, such as in ASHRAE litterature (wood/metal studs walls are covered for example). If you can't, search in a library of thermal bridges, use the listed $\psi$ value (W/m.K or BTU/h.ft.R) and calculate the resulting derated U-value
  • The better way: calculate a proper thermal bridge using a 2D (or even 3D...) heat-transfer software such as LBNL's THERM.

Note that in the case where you have multiple layers and say one layer is bridged (example: you have concrete and I-beams in the first layer, and behind it you have continuous insulation), the crude way is slightly different depending on how different the conductivities of dissimilar materials are:

  • The parallel- path method is used when the thermal conductivity of the dissimilar materials in the layer are rather close in value (within the same order of magnitude), as with wood-frame walls
  • The isothermal-planes method is appropriate for materials with conductivities moderately different from those of adjacent materials (e.g., masonry).
  • The zone method and the modified zone method are appropriate for materials with a very high difference in conductivity (two orders of magnitude or more), such as with assemblies containing metal.

See this illustration taken from Chapter 27 of the HoF:

Parallel path and Isothermal planes

References:

  • ASHRAE Handbook of Fundamentals, Chapter 4 "Heat Transfer"
  • Chapter 27 "HEAT, AIR , AND MOISTURE CONTROL IN BUILDING ASSEMBLIES—EXAMPLES"

My two cents if you have to use some complicated manual calculations such as for the zone method: you end up being faster and more accurate using THERM once you get the gist of it, and that includes how to draw properly in THERM and how to set your boundary conditions properly and on which surface to define the R-value calculation. There's a learning curve, but there's also pretty good documentation out there (thanks to standards such as Passivhaus who have got people interested in calculating bridges properly, and it's a worthy investment IMHO.


1Note that it actually reduces to half a panel and half an I-beam due to symmetry, but it's harder to grasp / visualize if you use THERM or another heat transfer software.

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Also THERM gives you some nice visuals: everyone loves colors =) ! (like CFD being jokingly referred to as Color Fluid Dynamics or Color for Directors...)

Julien Marrec's avatar Julien Marrec  ( 2016-01-20 02:53:09 -0500 )edit

Hahaha, thanks Julien! It's a great answer, lots of details and different methods. I'll try one of these for sure!

olivier's avatar olivier  ( 2016-01-20 17:05:44 -0500 )edit

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