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2015-09-21 02:34:14 -0500 asked a question Re-cooling zone air after mixing with return air

I am modeling a mechanical VAC system in Energyplus similar to the image below where the system mixes fixed amount of conditioned and return air and cools it down again. image description

But I am facing difficulties with the zone equipment side. So I was wondering if I am building the system correctly or not.

  • Is it possible to build the system in Energyplus as depicted in the figure above?
  • If yes, any specific components that I should use? (I have tried the AirTerminal:SingleDuct:InletSideMixer combined with ZoneHVAC:FourPipeFanCoil but I'm getting a node error at the inlet side mixing box)
  • Any other suggestion/tips in implementing this example system in energyplus are also very welcome.

Thank you

2015-06-18 01:30:08 -0500 commented answer Verifying energy balance of Energy+ simulations

Thanks Neal for the suggestion. Changing the HeatBalance Algorithm does improve the ‘Zone Air Heat Balance Deviation Rate W ’ (it is basically zero…order of E-13) and there is no more warnings from Energyplus. So, the air heat energy balance is being fulfilled by Energyplus. But I wanted to calculate the energy balance manually as well and not just look at the deviation rate. During this exercise I came across another issue. I have edited my question above as I think it still falls under the topic of energy balance.

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2015-06-16 08:50:01 -0500 asked a question Verifying energy balance of Energy+ simulations

I am trying to verify the energy balance of Energy Plus models. As a reference I took the very simple ‘1ZoneUncontrolled.idf’ file for location CO and looked at the ‘Zone Air Heat Balance Deviation Rate [W]’ and also monitored Output:Diagnostics-> DisplayZoneAirHeatBalanceOffBalance. One segment from the output from the .errr file was

   *************  ** Warning ** Zone Air Heat Balance is out of balance ... zone named ZONE ONE
   *************  **   ~~~   **   This error occurred 7254 total times;
   *************  **   ~~~   **   during Warmup 0 times;
   *************  **   ~~~   **   during Sizing 0 times.
   *************  **   ~~~   **   Max=657.858682 {W}  Min=1.957503E-003 {W}
  • Does this mean that even for this very simple model, the energy balance is not being met?
  • What do EnergyPlus modelers use for verifying whether the energy balance condition is being fulfilled?

Suggestions on which variables to monitor to track would be appreciated. I have gone through the zone and surface outputs listed in 'input-output-reference' documentation but no luck in finding a balance of the heat transfers in the zone. Thanks.

**Update of question with the next part following the answer from Neal Kruis

Thanks Neal for the suggestion. Changing the HeatBalance Algorithm does improve the ‘Zone Air Heat Balance Deviation Rate [W](TimeStep)’ (it is basically zero…order of E-13) and there is no more warnings from Energyplus. So, the air heat energy balance is being fulfilled by Energyplus.

But just to be sure I calculated the balance manually. Going back to the basis for the Zone and Air System Integration, I used the following variables as outputs in csv.

A) Thermal Zone: Zone Air Heat Balance Air Energy Storage Rate [W](TimeStep)
B) Thermal Zone: Zone Air Heat Balance Surface Convection Rate [W](TimeStep)
C-H) Six Surfaces*: Surface Inside Face Convection Heat Gain Rate [W](TimeStep)

Since the idf file has no HVAC or internal loads or infiltration, all other parameters in the balancing equation, like convective internal loads, heat transfer from infiltration, heat transfer due to interzone mixing, air systems output are all zero.

Check 1: I looked at the difference between A) and B) and it is basically zero. So this check of energy balance is fulfilled.

Check 2: Here I took the summation of C-H) and A) i.e. summation of the outputs from the six surfaces (convective heat transfer from the zone surfaces) and zone air heat balance (energy stored in zone air). From my understanding, this should ideally be zero. But that is not the case as the summation of the variables deviate largely from zero and is still in the order of hundreds of watts.

Check2b) By following up on why this difference arises, I realized that if I take the ‘Surface Inside Face Convection Heat Transfer Coefficient [W/m2-K](TimeStep)’ and then calculate the convection heat gain myself by using coef*Area*deltaT, the energy balance is fulfilled for the heat gains calculated manually. I took the zone temperature and surface inside face temperature for calculating deltaT.

So my questions/comments on this issue are:

  • Maybe I have misunderstood the report variable ‘Surface ...
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