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Chiller and Boiler Curves Conversion SI to IP

asked 2017-07-24 13:16:31 -0600

updated 2017-08-29 02:18:31 -0600

Can you use the same exact curve coefficients in EnergyPlus as in eQuest? I suspect the answer is no, and the coefficients are dependent on the unit system, but I wanted to be sure.

I'm building a Title 24 model in eQuest, and need to use the same curves as the CBECC-Com model produces. I inspected the IDF file and used those curves but I think I'm misusing this information. Can someone confirm?

Here is the snapshot from Title 24 Appendix 5.7:

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answered 2017-07-25 13:31:13 -0600

Molly Curtz gravatar image

updated 2017-07-26 12:11:52 -0600

You are correct that the answer is No. In the snapshot you posted the curves are for atmospheric (natural draft) boilers. In the spreadsheet Appendix 5.7, the blue values are indicated to be applicable for DOE2, while the red values are indicated to be applicable for E+. In this case the independent variable is Part Load Ratio, which is unitless. But the output of the DOE/eQuest curve is a modifier to the nominal Heat Input Ratio (1/efficiency), and the Output of the E+ curve is a modifier to the nominal efficiency. To compare output values you have to convert them to the same result. I got the following from my calcs, using a nominal 0.80 rated efficiency value:

Efficiency vs. PLR for the DOE2 curve

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Efficiency vs. PLR for the E+ curve

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They are pretty close except in the lowest PLR range. How much impact this has will depend on the min PLR allowed for the boiler. Also, note that Appendix 5.7 lists an Min Out value of 0.75 for the E+ curve (in cell reference AH94 of the spreadsheet). DOE2 doesn't have this, but the curve definitions in E+ allow you to put bounding limits on curve results. You would need to look at the Performance Curve object to see if that limit is implemented. If it is, it that would have a very significant impact on natural draft boiler energy use in the simulation. Also, DOE2/eQuest has inputs for "startup" and "standby" losses which are influential to boiler energy use (increasing) that E+ does not have (as far as I know).

Another thing I have noticed in E+ that has a big influence on boiler energy use is the input to the field Boiler Flow Mode in the Boiler:HotWater object.

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