Question-and-Answer Resource for the Building Energy Modeling Community
Get started with the Help page
Ask Your Question
0

Thermal simulation of stone masonry wall in THERM

asked 2 years ago

Moheete's avatar

updated 2 years ago

Hello all, we made a stone masonry wall in our laboratory (shown in the picture). in order to obtain u-value of the wall, I want to conduct a thermal simulation of it in THERM software.The volume ratio of stone to mortar is 83% to 17%. I wonder if it is possible to simplify it in the THERM software as shown in the picture (with the exact percentage of stone to mortar)? If not, Which software can I use to perform the simulation? image description image description

Preview: (hide)

2 Answers

Sort by » oldest newest most voted
1

answered 2 years ago

Just to be clear, the "green" slivers are mortar, bonding "yellow" stone (as illustrated in the cross section)? And individual stones are always staggered; no single stone ends up linking indoor to outdoor environments? I would first spend some time evaluating just how sensitive steady-state U-factor estimations are to various cross-section configurations, e.g.

  • 1x (volume-weighted) homogeneous material
  • the above cross-section layout
  • a finer bonding pattern (some stones in the photo appear quite small)

In the end, it may not be worth the effort. But at least you would get a sense of the range of possible outcomes (i.e. average assembly conductivity). Here's a link to a nice BRE study on guarded hot-box investigations of solid masonry assemblies. Aspects like bonding configurations, mortar moisture content and air gaps in the assemblies are considered. Interesting read!

What is the ultimate purpose of estimating steady-state U factors? Inputs for annual energy simulations? If so, I'd spend as much time identifying other attributes of the assembly (e.g. mass/density of the assembly), in addition to air-tightness & thermal bridging at various interfaces (e.g. around doors/windows). These would be as important (if not more) than a steady-state U factor IMHO (depending on the context, e.g. site, end-use), yet are generally hard to come by. If the assembly is expected to be exposed to frequent cycles of precipitation, solar-driven moisture penetration (mortar), drying, etc., then maybe combined heat and moisture modelling might be more suitable. An EnergyPlus link, but many packages offer similar functionality (e.g. WUFI+, TRNSYS, ESP-r).

Preview: (hide)
link
0

answered Mar 3

Yes, you can estimate the stone masonry wall in THERM, but the software is geared toward homogenous material. To be more realistic for consideration of the exact 83% stone and 17% mortar ratio, utilize WUFI or COMSOL since they are capable of handling detailed material distributions. In addition, if you are conducting material and cost estimates on such masonry work, Masonry estimating services will be a time-saver by providing correct takeoffs and cost estimates.

Preview: (hide)
link

Your Answer

Please start posting anonymously - your entry will be published after you log in or create a new account.

Add Answer

Training Workshops

Careers

Question Tools

1 follower

Stats

Asked: 2 years ago

Seen: 207 times

Last updated: Apr 18 '23