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The output of simulation is random

asked 2022-04-08 15:58:28 -0600

yingli.lou@colorado.edu's avatar

updated 2022-04-11 17:15:19 -0600

The model is the secondary school (ASHRAE90.1-2007) in the DOE commercial prototype building.

The weather file is the 2012 Rochester, NY (AMY data)

The version of EP+ is 9.0.1

When I was running the simulation, I noticed that sometimes the energy consumption will increase though I only increase the thermal resistance of the exterior wall. Since Rochester, NY belongs to the cold climate zone, the energy consumption should decrease when increasing the thermal resistance of the exterior wall.

I wrote a script for testing. During the testing, I only change the thermal resistance of the exterior wall. The value of thermal resistance of exterior wall (Nonres_Exterior_Wall_Insulation) is set between 1 to 12 m2-K/W. And the result shows that, in the beginning, the energy will decrease with the increased thermal resistance. But when the value exceeds a critical value (around 2.3 m2-K/W), the energy did not have a linear relationship with the thermal resistance of the exterior wall. It seems like the increasing and decreasing of energy is random.

The plot is shown below:

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I'm not sure if this issue is caused by the model setting or the setting of EP+. If you have any similar experience, I would really appreciate it if you could give me any suggestions.

Further testing of medium office has been conducted. The medium office model (ASHRAE90.1-2019) is also from the DOE prototype building: https://www.energycodes.gov/prototype....

The results are shown below. These results definitely make sense. image description

I was wondering if it was caused by the complexity of the model? Once the model becomes complicated, the simulation in EP+ cannot get convergence.

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Have you looked to be sure the indoor temperature is the same for this comparison?

rraustad's avatar rraustad  ( 2022-04-08 16:16:06 -0600 )edit

Yes, the zone temperature is almost the same for each model.

yingli.lou@colorado.edu's avatar yingli.lou@colorado.edu  ( 2022-04-08 18:10:54 -0600 )edit

Have you verified that for each of these runs the insulation level is as expected?

rraustad's avatar rraustad  ( 2022-04-08 18:34:46 -0600 )edit

Yes, I've checked the models. Only the insulation value of the exterior wall has been changed. I also applied the same testing method to the Medium Office model (ASHRAE90.1-2019), which is also downloaded from DOE prototype commercial building website https://www.energycodes.gov/prototype.... The result of medium office is as expected. (I attached the picture in the content of the questions)

yingli.lou@colorado.edu's avatar yingli.lou@colorado.edu  ( 2022-04-11 17:15:20 -0600 )edit

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answered 2022-04-18 17:20:12 -0600

I did some tests for this and I doubt that it is caused by the EnergyPlus version. After I upgraded the idf files into EnergyPlus version 9.6 and reran the simulations, this kind of fluctuations are disappeared. For your research purpose, I suggest you upgrading the idf files from 9.0.1 to 9.6.0 and rerun all simulations.

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Thanks for your suggestion. I upgraded the model, reran it in the EP9.6.0 and it worked. Seems that the EP already fixed this error in the latest version (9.6.0).

yingli.lou@colorado.edu's avatar yingli.lou@colorado.edu  ( 2022-05-18 15:53:45 -0600 )edit

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