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Warning: Zone Not Fully Enclosed, Edge Used More Than Two Times

asked Mar 31

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updated Mar 31

Dear Community, I hope you are having a wonderful new week. I'm fixing some warning messages in my model. One type of the warnings is this Zone not Fully Enclosed. I used the latest SketchUp OpenStudio Plug-in to build the geometry. To simplify my problem, I've created a similar version of my model, and you can access through this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rttf.... This is a very poorly constructed OpenStudio model so it has a lot of other warnings and errors, but I just want to focus on the geometry warning. The detailed warning message is:

* Warning * CalculateZoneVolume: The Zone="THERMAL ZONE 4" is not fully enclosed. To be fully enclosed, each edge of a surface must also be an edge on one other surface. * ~~~ * The zone volume was calculated using the floor area times ceiling height method where the floor and ceiling are the same except for the z-coordinates. * ~~~ * The surface "SURFACE 14" has an edge that was used 4 times: it is an edge on three or more surfaces: * ~~~ * It was found on the following Surfaces: 'SURFACE 18' 'SURFACE 10' 'SURFACE 12' * ~~~ * Vertex start { 27.5388, 14.6661, 4.8133} * ~~~ * Vertex end { 27.5388, 14.6661, 0.0000} * ~~~ * The surface "SURFACE 15" has an edge that was used 4 times: it is an edge on three or more surfaces: * ~~~ * It was found on the following Surfaces: 'SURFACE 18' 'SURFACE 10' 'SURFACE 11' * ~~~ * Vertex start { 15.1384, 14.6661, 0.0000} * ~~~ * Vertex end { 15.1384, 14.6661, 4.8133} * ~~~ * The surface "SURFACE 18" has an edge that was used 4 times: it is an edge on three or more surfaces: * ~~~ * It was found on the following Surfaces: 'SURFACE 16' 'SURFACE 10' 'SURFACE 9' * ~~~ * Vertex start { 27.5388, 14.6661, 4.8133} * ~~~ * Vertex end { 15.1384, 14.6661, 4.8133} * ~~~ * The surface "SURFACE 18" has an edge that was used 4 times: it is an edge on three or more surfaces: * ~~~ * It was found on the following Surfaces: 'SURFACE 13' 'SURFACE 10' 'SURFACE 7' * ~~~ * Vertex start { 15.1384, 14.6661, 0.0000} * ~~~ * Vertex end { 27.5388, 14.6661, 0.0000}

To build the geometry, I simply created spaces in SketchUp, did surface intersection and surface matching. The warning shows that some edges are used multiple times by more than two surfaces, but theses edges are the intersection of several surfaces so it should be used by multiple surfaces from my perspective. I'm wondering if you can provide me some insights on how to fix this problem and what might be the correct way to prevent it in the future. Thank you so much for your help!

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answered Mar 31

updated Mar 31

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I don't see anything wrong with your geometry. Neither does the App:

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Enable Geometry Diagnostics, and check all Diagnostic Tools. No reported issues. Try this out:

  • make a copy of your .osm
  • add a new thermal zone ("Thermal Zone 5")
  • link "Space South" to "Thermal Zone 5", i.e. one space per thermal zone

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Check the run/eplusout.err file. The "Warning .. CalculateZoneVolume" message no longer appears.


I encountered this a while back. I hesitate to qualify this as a bug at this moment, as I haven't taken a deep dive yet. This would be an SDK bug, not an App bug. In a nutshell, the interzone surface pair:

  • "Surface 10" (Space South)
  • "Surface 18" (Space Middle)

... should have been forward translated as an InternalMass object in the generated IDF, as suggested here. This no longer seems to work as before, maybe linked to EnergyPlus' new space concept introduced a few years ago.

What I end up doing is either:

  • keep a single space for each thermal zone (as illustrated above)
  • use an API-based script to combine spaces into one

I don't know how to combine spaces into one using the App. I may be missing something obvious - would love to hear from others.


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Thank you so much for your detailed explanation! I'm wondering if it is reasonable to keep my model as is and leave these warning messages since the zone volume calculation is as expected.

ssjjjyyy's avatar ssjjjyyy  ( Mar 31 )

Good if it works for you - it is after all just a warning. The autocalculated volume is OK given the shoebox nature of your spaces. Do an UMH search for CalculateZoneVolume - it's certainly considered a serious warning for many, often due to some other underlying geometry issue. For large models, I personally don't like to see such warnings - can't really tell if it's a bone fide mistake in geometry inputs, or what you're coming up against ... without taking deeper dives.

Denis Bourgeois's avatar Denis Bourgeois  ( Mar 31 )

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