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Modelling Constraint for Coil:Cooling:WaterToAirHeatPump

asked Dec 13

Keigo's avatar

updated Dec 16

I want to use Coil:Cooling:WaterToAirHeatPump:EquationFit in a normal air loop i.e. AirLoopHVAC. I entered the Coil:Cooling:WaterToAirHeatPump:EquationFit object in Branch, and I got the following severe error. EnergyPlus is V24-1-0.

   ** Severe  ** GetAirPathData: AirLoopHVAC = "CRAH".
   **   ~~~   ** ..Invalid Air Loop Component Type = "COIL:COOLING:WATERTOAIRHEATPUMP:EQUATIONFIT".
   **   ~~~   ** ..Air Loop Component Name = "DX COOLING COIL".
   **   ~~~   ** ..reference Branch = "CRAH MAIN BRANCH".
   **  Fatal  ** GetAirPathData: Errors found retrieving input for AirLoopHVAC.
   ...Summary of Errors that led to program termination:

IDF Editor shows the object in a drop-down list in Branch, so I thought we can use it, but the error says it is invalid.

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When I check ExampleFiles, Coil:Cooling:WaterToAirHeatPump:XXX object is always used with AirLoopHVAC:UnitaryHeatPump:waterToAir. Do we have to use Coil:Cooling:WaterToAirHeatPump:XXX with AirLoopHVAC:UnitaryHeatPump:waterToAir? I don't want to use AirLoopHVAC:UnitaryHeatPump:waterToAir because it allows Fan:OnOff only. My system is variable air flow. Is there any way to use Coil:Cooling:WaterToAirHeatPump:XXX without AirLoopHVAC:UnitaryHeatPump:waterToAir?

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Hi Keigo, I'm a design builder user who often wants to use water to air coils. I can access these coils from two objects: the unitary heat pump: water to air, or (what design builder calls) generic unitary system air loop. https://bigladdersoftware.com/epx/doc... In the later object, you can have variable air flow. I think the E+ object is called AirLoopHVAC:UnitarySystem https://bigladdersoftware.com/epx/doc...

Greg Estep's avatar Greg Estep  ( Dec 13 )

@Greg Estep Thanks. Right, I also self-resolevd.

Keigo's avatar Keigo  ( Dec 13 )

@Greg Estep Btw, can DesignBuilder add a precooling coil in front of the unitary heat pump: water to air or generic unitary system? We can model the precooling coil with IDF Editor, but I'm not sure if we can also model it with DB.

Keigo's avatar Keigo  ( Dec 13 )

@Greg Estep I mean for supply air precooling just upstream of the unitary system, not for outdoor air precooling.

Keigo's avatar Keigo  ( Dec 13 )

No. I can only place a coil in the outdoor air inlet box (upstream of the mixing damper) Is your AHU just recirculating (no ventilation)?

Greg Estep's avatar Greg Estep  ( Dec 13 )

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answered Dec 13

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I should have referred to this compatibility table.

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@Keigo this means that the IDD file (where the rules are defined that IDF Editor uses) is not aligned with this compatibility table. I didn't find any existing GitHub issues for "branch coil heat pump", so feel free to create a new issue.

Aaron Boranian's avatar Aaron Boranian  ( Dec 16 )

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