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Top of Slab Insulation In BEOpt Retrofit Energy Model DRAMATICALLY Increasing Loads Not Met?!!!

I am using BEOpt V2.8.0.0 to model a semi deep energy retrofit of a home my wife and I recently purchased in Taos NM (Zone 5B). First of all I want to say that the tool is fairly easy to learn and very useful in determining what energy efficiency measures make sense in terms of impact on energy use as well as cost savings. I actually have some background working for a building science firm and was certified as a HERS rater quite a few years ago so feel like I have a fairly good grasp on a lot of the concepts and strategies around efficiency and building durability. That said I was quite shocked to find when I added insulation to the top of the slab that it dramatically increased my loads not met (Hrs/year) with the same sized equipment (24,000Btuh minisplit for a single story 1200sf house). BEOpt doesn’t have a way to add “insulation” to the top of the slab so I used the Foundation Floors>Carpet input which allows you to specify the R-value of the carpet pad.

Tried to attach screengrab from BEOpt but I guess I don't have enough points yet (?) so I will describe the outcomes Uninsulated slab loads not met 5.2 hrs/yr 100% top of slab R-10 insulation loads not met 550.8 hrs/yr 100% top of slab R-20 insulation 801.2 loads not met hrs/yr 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab (no top of slab insulation) 0.5 loads not met hrs/yr 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab and 100% top of slab R-10 insulation 501.2loads not met hrs/yr 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab and 100% top of slab R-20 insulation 781.7 loads not met hrs/yr

I assume the increased loads not met have something to do with de-coupling the slab (thermal mass) from the interior space but I’d love for someone to give me a sanity check that I am modeling this correctly and, if so, does it make sense to insulate the top of the slab at all? Is using the carpet input as a way to model top of slab insulation a reasonable approach? I ran a second case with just 40% top of slab insulation (approximately the same area that would be covered by 4ft of insulation around the inside perimeter of the house. While the model doesn’t know what the exact location of this insulation is the Loads Not Met numbers were lower but still significant and followed the same pattern of the higher the R-value of the top of slab insulation the higher the Loads Not Met hours. Any insight into what’s going on here would be MUCH appreciated!!!

Top of Slab Insulation In BEOpt Retrofit Energy Model DRAMATICALLY Increasing Loads Not Met?!!!

I am using BEOpt V2.8.0.0 to model a semi deep energy retrofit of a home my wife and I recently purchased in Taos NM (Zone 5B). First of all I want to say that the tool is fairly easy to learn and very useful in determining what energy efficiency measures make sense in terms of impact on energy use as well as cost savings. I actually have some background working for a building science firm and was certified as a HERS rater quite a few years ago so feel like I have a fairly good grasp on a lot of the concepts and strategies around efficiency and building durability. That said I was quite shocked to find when I added insulation to the top of the slab that it dramatically increased my loads not met (Hrs/year) with the same sized equipment (24,000Btuh minisplit for a single story 1200sf house). BEOpt doesn’t have a way to add “insulation” to the top of the slab so I used the Foundation Floors>Carpet input which allows you to specify the R-value of the carpet pad.

Tried to attach screengrab from BEOpt but I guess I don't have enough points yet (?) so I will describe the outcomes Uninsulated slab loads not met 5.2 hrs/yr 100% top of slab R-10 insulation loads not met 550.8 hrs/yr 100% top of slab R-20 insulation 801.2 loads not met hrs/yr 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab (no top of slab insulation) 0.5 loads not met hrs/yr 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab and 100% top of slab R-10 insulation 501.2loads not met hrs/yr 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab and 100% top of slab R-20 insulation 781.7 loads not met hrs/yr

I assume the increased loads not met have something to do with de-coupling the slab (thermal mass) from the interior space but I’d love for someone to give me a sanity check that I am modeling this correctly and, if so, does it make sense to insulate the top of the slab at all? Is using the carpet input as a way to model top of slab insulation a reasonable approach? I ran a second case with just 40% top of slab insulation (approximately the same area that would be covered by 4ft of insulation around the inside perimeter of the house. While the model doesn’t know what the exact location of this insulation is the Loads Not Met numbers were lower but still significant and followed the same pattern of the higher the R-value of the top of slab insulation the higher the Loads Not Met hours. Any insight into what’s going on here would be MUCH appreciated!!!

Top of Slab Insulation In BEOpt Retrofit Energy Model DRAMATICALLY Increasing Loads Not Met?!!!

I am using BEOpt V2.8.0.0 to model a semi deep energy retrofit of a home my wife and I recently purchased in Taos NM (Zone 5B). First of all I want to say that the tool is fairly easy to learn and very useful in determining what energy efficiency measures make sense in terms of impact on energy use as well as cost savings. I actually have some background working for a building science firm and was certified as a HERS rater quite a few years ago so feel like I have a fairly good grasp on a lot of the concepts and strategies around efficiency and building durability. That said I was quite shocked to find when I added insulation to the top of the slab that it dramatically increased my loads not met (Hrs/year) with the same sized equipment (24,000Btuh minisplit for a single story 1200sf house). BEOpt doesn’t have a way to add “insulation” to the top of the slab so I used the Foundation Floors>Carpet input which allows you to specify the R-value of the carpet pad.

Tried to attach screengrab from BEOpt but I guess I don't have enough points yet (?) so I will describe the outcomes

  • Uninsulated slab loads not met 5.2 hrs/yr hrs/yr
  • 100% top of slab R-10 insulation loads not met 550.8 hrs/yr hrs/yr
  • 100% top of slab R-20 insulation loads not met 801.2 loads not met hrs/yr hrs/yr
  • 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab (no top of slab insulation) loads not met 0.5 loads not met hrs/yr hrs/yr
  • 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab and 100% top of slab R-10 insulation 501.2loads not met hrs/yr loads not met 501.2 hrs/yr
  • 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab and 100% top of slab R-20 insulation loads not met 781.7 loads not met hrs/yr

I assume the increased loads not met have something to do with de-coupling the slab (thermal mass) from the interior space but I’d love for someone to give me a sanity check that I am modeling this correctly and, if so, does it make sense to insulate the top of the slab at all? Is using the carpet input as a way to model top of slab insulation a reasonable approach?

I ran a second case with just 40% top of slab insulation (approximately the same area that would be covered by 4ft of insulation around the inside perimeter of the house. While the model doesn’t know what the exact location of this insulation is the Loads Not Met numbers were lower but still significant and followed the same pattern of the higher the R-value of the top of slab insulation the higher the Loads Not Met hours.

Any insight into what’s going on here would be MUCH appreciated!!!

Top of Slab Insulation In BEOpt Retrofit Energy Model DRAMATICALLY Increasing Loads Not Met?!!!

I am using BEOpt V2.8.0.0 to model a semi deep energy retrofit of a home my wife and I recently purchased in Taos NM (Zone 5B). First of all I want to say that the tool is fairly easy to learn and very useful in determining what energy efficiency measures make sense in terms of impact on energy use as well as cost savings. I actually have some background working for a building science firm and was certified as a HERS rater quite a few years ago so feel like I have a fairly good grasp on a lot of the concepts and strategies around efficiency and building durability. That said I was quite shocked to find when I added insulation to the top of the slab that it dramatically increased my loads not met (Hrs/year) with the same sized equipment (24,000Btuh minisplit for a single story 1200sf house). BEOpt doesn’t have a way to add “insulation” to the top of the slab so I used the Foundation Floors>Carpet input which allows you to specify the R-value of the carpet pad.

Tried to attach screengrab from BEOpt but I guess I don't have enough points yet (?) so I will describe the outcomesHere are the output graphs:

image description

  • Uninsulated slab loads not met 5.2 hrs/yr
  • 100% top of slab R-10 insulation loads not met 550.8 hrs/yr
  • 100% top of slab R-20 insulation loads not met 801.2 hrs/yr
  • 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab (no top of slab insulation) loads not met 0.5 hrs/yr
  • 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab and 100% top of slab R-10 insulation loads not met 501.2 hrs/yr
  • 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab and 100% top of slab R-20 insulation loads not met 781.7 hrs/yr

I assume the increased loads not met have something to do with de-coupling the slab (thermal mass) from the interior space but I’d love for someone to give me a sanity check that I am modeling this correctly and, if so, does it make sense to insulate the top of the slab at all? Is using the carpet input as a way to model top of slab insulation a reasonable approach?

I ran a second case with just 40% top of slab insulation (approximately the same area that would be covered by 4ft of insulation around the inside perimeter of the house. While the model doesn’t know what the exact location of this insulation is the Loads Not Met numbers were lower but still significant and followed the same pattern of the higher the R-value of the top of slab insulation the higher the Loads Not Met hours.

Any insight into what’s going on here would be MUCH appreciated!!!

Top of Slab Insulation In BEOpt Retrofit Energy Model DRAMATICALLY Increasing Loads Not Met?!!!

I am using BEOpt V2.8.0.0 to model a semi deep energy retrofit of a home my wife and I recently purchased in Taos NM (Zone 5B). First of all I want to say that the tool is fairly easy to learn and very useful in determining what energy efficiency measures make sense in terms of impact on energy use as well as cost savings. I actually have some background working for a building science firm and was certified as a HERS rater quite a few years ago so feel like I have a fairly good grasp on a lot of the concepts and strategies around efficiency and building durability. That said I was quite shocked to find when I added insulation to the top of the slab that it dramatically increased my loads not met (Hrs/year) with the same sized equipment (24,000Btuh minisplit for a single story 1200sf house). BEOpt doesn’t have a way to add “insulation” to the top of the slab so I used the Foundation Floors>Carpet input which allows you to specify the R-value of the carpet pad.

Here are the output graphs:

image description

  • Uninsulated slab loads not met 5.2 hrs/yr
  • 100% top of slab R-10 insulation loads not met 550.8 hrs/yr
  • 100% top of slab R-20 insulation loads not met 801.2 hrs/yr
  • 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab (no top of slab insulation) loads not met 0.5 hrs/yr
  • 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab and 100% top of slab R-10 insulation loads not met 501.2 hrs/yr
  • 4ft R-20 vertical insulation on the exterior of the slab and 100% top of slab R-20 insulation loads not met 781.7 hrs/yr

I assume the increased loads not met have something to do with de-coupling the slab (thermal mass) from the interior space but I’d love for someone to give me a sanity check that I am modeling this correctly and, if so, does it make sense to insulate the top of the slab at all? Is using the carpet input as a way to model top of slab insulation a reasonable approach?

I ran a second case with just 40% top of slab insulation (approximately the same area that would be covered by 4ft of insulation around the inside perimeter of the house. While the model doesn’t know what the exact location of this insulation is the Loads Not Met numbers were lower but still significant and followed the same pattern of the higher the R-value of the top of slab insulation the higher the Loads Not Met hours.

Any insight into what’s going on here would be MUCH appreciated!!!