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We've been having problems similar to the image shown in this post. They tend to happen while we are drawing in windows or subsurfaces. Sometimes when we save and close, then reopen the file, windows and walls are misplaced, inverted, or simply missing.

By sheer rote, we realized that we can avoid this problem by double clicking out of a space before double clicking into the next space:

When drawing the windows, it is necessary to double-click to select the space, otherwise you will just be drawing a SketchUp surface. In order to save time, we were double-clicking on the next space we wanted to draw a window in while the previous space was still selected. I noticed that after operations where we were doing this frequently, the wall flying problem almost always occurred, so I tried double-clicking out of the space between each space change.

Since implementing this method we have had no issues with flying walls.

Unfortunately I cannot offer insight into how to repair a file which has flown walls. We've been keeping backups of our file every 15 minutes or so because when something goes wrong, we usually cannot fix it. You'll have to go back to the file without the windows and remember to deselect the space you have selected before selecting the next space.

Thanks! Not exactly a solution, but an interesting workaround.

Thanks guys! This will definitely work for now. We've got another employee working on the OpenStudio method so we can compare the two and figure out what's best for our workflow.

As the son of a computer scientist, I'm fairly disappointed in the execution of the tool in the SketchUp plugin. I understand now WHY this occurs, and its the same problem I have with most software being written today. Rather than examining the use case and developing an end-to-end solution that understands the goal of dividing surface, the intersect tool is just replicating human inputs. Ah well, free is free.

I've run into an interesting problem which I believe to be a bug or flaw (possibly a failure to identify a use case) in the "Intersect" feature in the Surface Matching window of the Openstudio Plugin for SketchUp. It happens in a very specific case, but it is reproducible. To demonstrate i will build a two story building with two spaces per floor.

here is the first floor built

here is the second floor built

Then, the Intersect in Entire Model button is pressed. Below is the space with the issue selected

When we isolate that space and look underneath to see if the intersection worked, we see that instead of the surface being broken up into two surfaces, a subsurface is added which by default is rendered as a skylight. This is because the surface break starts from and ends at the same edge of the surface.

If the surface break is attempted manually, the same issue appears.

I understand that its uncommon for the floor of a room to be divided in such a way, but it must happen sometimes. Is there a way to convert the subsurface to a separate surface? otherwise, modeling the building described here is impossible as far as I can tell.

Any thoughts?