I have a boiler that supplies hot water to a number of coils. The circulation pump runs continuously however when I select this option my plant overheats. The errors message seems to indicate that additional setpoint managers are needed. As suggested by the error message, I have shortened the run period and results look good but I can only manage to run 7 months before overheating. If you could help me with a few questions maybe I can manage to figure out the problem.
1) Does the Plant Loop Demand Side need setpoint managers?
2) Do I need to add a bypass pipe (adiabatic) so that the pump is running a loop regardless of whether heat is being called for?
My thought is an adiabatic pipe parallel to the boiler in the plant loop and adding a setpoint managers before the boiler would be needed to allow the boiler to turn off and on depending on demand. When the boiler is off the pipe will allow the pump to run continuously bypassing the boiler.
My questions are about setpoint managers and where to place them.
Supply side in and out seems appropriate as a longer loop and more load will drop temperature and thus require the boiler to activate. You would want to control the boiler maximum supply temperature and also tell it when it needs to start.
Also, it seems a setpoint manager is needed after the pump to control bypassing the boiler and directing the continuous flow through a parallel pipe.
My pump and boiler are Autosized.
epilogue - after adding additional setpoint managers I am still crashing from excessive temperature. I will try adding additional pumps.
First error occurs during sizing: Warning * Missing temperature setpoint for LeavingSetpointModulated mode Boiler named HW BOILER * A temperature setpoint is needed at the outlet node of a boiler in variable flow mode, use a SetpointManager * The overall loop setpoint will be assumed for Boiler. The simulation continues ... * Warning * GetDensityGlycol: Temperature is out of range (too high) for fluid [WATER] density * * ~~~ ** ..Called From:PlantPumps:CalcPumps:,Temperature=[104.99], supplied data range=[0.00,100.00]
* Warning * GetSpecificHeatGlycol: Temperature is out of range (too high) for fluid [WATER] specific heat * * ~~~ * ..Called From:PlantLoopSolver::EvaluateLoopSetPointLoad,Temperature=[125.02], supplied data range=[0.00,125.00] * ~~~ * Environment=RUN PERIOD 1, at Simulation time=06/02 23:50 - 24:00 * Severe * Plant temperatures are getting far too hot, check controls and relative loads and capacities * ~~~ * Environment=RUN PERIOD 1, at Simulation time=07/31 15:00 - 15:10 * ~~~ * PlantLoop Name (SupplySide)= PLANT LOOP 2 * ~~~ * PlantLoop Setpoint Temperature=67.0 {C} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Inlet Node (SupplySide) has a Setpoint. * ~~~ * PlantLoop Inlet Node (DemandSide) does not have a Setpoint. * ~~~ * PlantLoop Outlet Node (SupplySide) has a Setpoint. * ~~~ * PlantLoop Outlet Node (DemandSide) does not have a Setpoint. * ~~~ * PlantLoop Outlet Node (SupplySide) "NODE 19" has temperature=300.0 {C} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Inlet Node (SupplySide) "NODE 18" has temperature=300.0 {C} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Minimum Temperature=0.0 {C} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Maximum Temperature=100.0 {C} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Flow Request (SupplySide)=0.0 {kg/s} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Flow Request (DemandSide)=0.0 {kg/s} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Node (SupplySide) "NODE 19" has mass flow rate =1.4 {kg/s} * ~~~ * PlantLoop PumpHeat (SupplySide)=319.2 {W} * ~~~ * PlantLoop PumpHeat (DemandSide)=0.0 {W} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Cooling Demand=1372347.9 {W} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Heating Demand=0.0 {W} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Demand not Dispatched=0.0 {W} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Unmet Demand=-1372347.9 {W} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Capacity=64145.8 {W} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Capacity (SupplySide)=64145.8 {W} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Capacity (DemandSide)=0.0 {W} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Operation Scheme=PLANT LOOP 2 OPERATION SCHEME LIST * ~~~ * PlantLoop Operation Dispatched Load = 0.0 {W} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Operation Dispatched Load (SupplySide)= 0.0 {W} * ~~~ * PlantLoop Operation Dispatched Load (DemandSide)= 0.0 {W} * ~~~ * Branches on the Loop. * ~~~ * Demand Branches: * ~~~ * PLANT LOOP 2 DEMAND INLET BRANCH * ~~~ * Components on Branch: * ~~~ * PIPE:ADIABATIC:PLANT LOOP 2 DEMAND INLET PIPE * ~~~ * PLANT LOOP 2 DEMAND BRANCH 1 * ~~~ * Components on Branch: * ~~~ * COIL:HEATING:WATER:UNIT HEATER HW HTG COIL * ~~~ * PLANT LOOP 2 DEMAND BRANCH 2 * ~~~ * Components on Branch: * ~~~ * COIL:HEATING:WATER:UNIT HEATER HW HTG COIL 1 * ~~~ * PLANT LOOP 2 DEMAND BRANCH 3 * ~~~ * Components on Branch: * ~~~ * COIL:HEATING:WATER:UNIT HEATER HW HTG COIL 2 * ~~~ * PLANT LOOP 2 DEMAND BRANCH 4 * ~~~ * Components on Branch: * ~~~ * COIL:HEATING:WATER:UNIT HEATER HW HTG COIL 3 * ~~~ * PLANT LOOP 2 DEMAND BRANCH 5 * ~~~ * Components on Branch: * ~~~ * COIL:HEATING:WATER:UNIT HEATER HW HTG COIL 4 * ~~~ * PLANT LOOP 2 DEMAND BRANCH 6 * ~~~ * Components on Branch: * ~~~ * COIL:HEATING:WATER:UNIT HEATER HW HTG COIL 5 * ~~~ * PLANT LOOP 2 DEMAND BRANCH 7 * ~~~ * Components on Branch: * ~~~ * COIL:HEATING:WATER:UNIT HEATER HW HTG COIL 6 * ~~~ * PLANT LOOP 2 DEMAND BYPASS BRANCH * ~~~ * Components on Branch: * ~~~ * PIPE:ADIABATIC:PLANT LOOP 2 DEMAND BYPASS PIPE * ~~~ * PLANT LOOP 2 DEMAND OUTLET BRANCH * ~~~ * Components on Branch: * ~~~ * PIPE:ADIABATIC:PLANT LOOP 2 DEMAND OUTLET PIPE * ~~~ * Supply Branches: * ~~~ * PLANT LOOP 2 SUPPLY INLET BRANCH * ~~~ * Components on Branch: * ~~~ * PUMP:CONSTANTSPEED:CONST SPD PUMP * ~~~ * PLANT LOOP 2 SUPPLY BRANCH 1 * ~~~ * Components on Branch: * ~~~ * BOILER:HOTWATER:HW BOILER * ~~~ * PLANT LOOP 2 SUPPLY OUTLET BRANCH * ~~~ * Components on Branch: * ~~~ * PIPE:ADIABATIC:PLANT LOOP 2 SUPPLY OUTLET PIPE * ~~~ * ******* * ~~~ * Possible things to look for to correct this problem are: * ~~~ * Capacity, Operation Scheme, Mass flow problems, Pump Heat building up over time. * ~~~ * Try a shorter runperiod to stop before it fatals and look at * ~~~ * lots of node time series data to see what is going wrong. * ~~~ * If this is happening during Warmup, you can use Output:Diagnostics,ReportDuringWarmup; * ~~~ * This is detected at the loop level, but the typical problems are in the components. * Fatal ** CheckForRunawayPlantTemps: Simulation terminated because of run away plant temperatures, too hot ...Summary of Errors that led to program termination: ..... Reference severe error count=1 ..... Last severe error=Plant temperatures are getting far too hot, check controls and relative loads and capacities
