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Unexplained CO2 dilution with inter-zone air mixing

Hi,

I’m currently observing unexpected CO2 reductions when connecting occupied zones to empty spaces through inter-zone mixing.

I recreated the problem in a simplified model consisting of one occupied room and an empty volume next to it. I tested the model both with and without air mixing, and tried three different sizes for the adjacent volume: 3 m³, 15 m³, and 150 m³. The fresh air enters only through infiltration (no natural or mechanical ventilation).

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The below chart shows the CO2 concentration in the occupied room on a typical afternoon.

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It seems strange to me that the CO2 concentration is highly diluted even when connected to a small fresh air volume (3 m³), and that the differences between 3 m³, 15 m³, and 150 m³ are not as significant as the difference between no air mixing and air mixing with a small volume.

I’m wondering if there might be an issue in how E+ simulates the CO2 transfer between zones, potentially leading to an overestimation of the mixing effect, even if the CO2 transfer due to interzone air mixing seems to be correctly accounted for in the zone air CO2 balance algorithm.

Some additional details:

Looking for feedback from developers or anyone familiar with the CO2 mixing algorithms under these conditions.

Unexplained CO2 dilution with inter-zone air mixing

Hi,

I’m currently observing unexpected CO2 reductions when connecting occupied zones to empty spaces through inter-zone mixing.

I recreated the problem in a simplified model consisting of one occupied room and an empty volume next to it. I tested the model both with and without air mixing, and tried three different sizes for the adjacent volume: 3 m³, 15 m³, and 150 m³. The fresh air enters only through infiltration (no natural or mechanical ventilation).

image description

The below chart shows the CO2 concentration in the occupied room on a typical afternoon.

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It seems strange to me that the CO2 concentration during occupied hours is highly diluted even when connected to a small fresh air volume (3 m³), and that the differences between 3 m³, 15 m³, and 150 m³ are not as significant as the difference between no air mixing and air mixing with a small volume.

I’m wondering if there might be an issue in how E+ simulates the CO2 transfer between zones, potentially leading to an overestimation of the mixing effect, even if the CO2 transfer due to interzone air mixing seems to be correctly accounted for in the zone air CO2 balance algorithm.

Some additional details:

Looking for feedback from developers or anyone familiar with the CO2 mixing algorithms under these conditions.

Unexplained CO2 dilution with inter-zone air mixing

Hi,

I’m currently observing unexpected CO2 reductions when connecting occupied zones to empty spaces through inter-zone mixing.

I recreated the problem in a simplified model consisting of one occupied room and an empty volume next to it. I tested the model both with and without air mixing, and tried three different sizes for the adjacent volume: 3 m³, 15 m³, and 150 m³. The fresh air enters only through infiltration (no natural or mechanical ventilation).

image description

The below chart shows the CO2 concentration in the occupied room on a typical afternoon.

image descriptionimage description

It seems strange to me that the CO2 concentration during occupied hours is highly diluted even when connected to a small fresh air volume (3 m³), and that the differences between 3 m³, 15 m³, and 150 m³ are not as significant as the difference between no air mixing and air mixing with a small volume.

I’m wondering if there might be an issue in how E+ simulates the CO2 transfer between zones, potentially leading to an overestimation of the mixing effect, even if the CO2 transfer due to interzone air mixing seems to be correctly accounted for in the zone air CO2 balance algorithm.

Here's the IDF: idf

Some additional details:

Looking for feedback from developers or anyone familiar with the CO2 mixing algorithms under these conditions.

Unexplained CO2 dilution with inter-zone air mixing

Hi,

I’m currently observing unexpected CO2 reductions when connecting occupied zones to empty spaces through inter-zone mixing.

I recreated the problem in a simplified model consisting of one occupied room and an empty volume next to it. I tested the model both with and without air mixing, and tried three different sizes for the adjacent volume: 3 m³, 15 m³, and 150 m³. The fresh air enters only through infiltration (no natural or mechanical ventilation).

image description

The below chart shows the CO2 concentration in the occupied room on a typical afternoon.

image description

It seems strange to me that the CO2 concentration during occupied hours is highly diluted even when connected to a small fresh air volume (3 m³), and that the differences between 3 m³, 15 m³, and 150 m³ are not as significant as the difference between no air mixing and air mixing with a small volume.

I’m wondering if there might be an issue in how E+ simulates the CO2 transfer between zones, potentially leading to an overestimation of the mixing effect, even if the CO2 transfer due to interzone air mixing seems to be correctly accounted for in the zone air CO2 balance algorithm.

Here's the IDF: idfidf file

Some additional details:

Looking for feedback from developers or anyone familiar with the CO2 mixing algorithms under these conditions.