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Trouble with the HVAC setting

asked 2015-07-22 05:08:44 -0500

Elena Guidolin gravatar image

updated 2020-06-16 14:04:48 -0500

Dear all,

I am simulation a building using Openstudio and E+. The HVAC system is composted by a multifunctional heat pump (it makes simultaneously heating and cooling), a ground water condenser and cooled beams as air terminals that provided both the cooling and the heating in the zones. I have used the CentralHeatPumpSystem to simulate the multifunctional heat pump. I have used the PlantComponent:TemperatureSource to simulate the ground water used as condenser I have used the FourPipeInduction Air terminals to simulate the cooled beams. I can't understand why the simulation doesn't work properly and I have problems with the sizing of the objects and the convergence of the temperature.

Has someone of you any idea how should I do to solve this issue? I attach the idf below.

Thank you very much

Have a nice day

Elena

part of the error message:

************* Beginning System Sizing Calculations
************* Beginning Plant Sizing Calculations
** Warning ** In calculating the design coil UA for Coil:Cooling:Water HW CHW FOUR PIPE INDUCTION TERMINAL CHW CLG COIL 2
**   ~~~   ** the apparatus dew-point is below the coil design inlet water temperature;
**   ~~~   ** the coil outlet design conditions will be changed to correct the problem.
**   ~~~   ** The initial design conditions are: Tair,in = 25.9833
**   ~~~   **                                    Wair,in = 9.554298E-003
**   ~~~   **                                    Twater,in = 7.2200
**   ~~~   **                                    Tair,out = 9.2200
**   ~~~   **                                    Wair,out = 6.585921E-003
**   ~~~   ** The revised design conditions are: Tair,out = 9.2195
**   ~~~   **                                    Wair,out = 6.586107E-003
** Warning ** In calculating the design coil UA for Coil:Cooling:Water HW CHW FOUR PIPE INDUCTION TERMINAL CHW CLG COIL
**   ~~~   ** no apparatus dew-point can be found for the initial entering and leaving conditions;
**   ~~~   ** the coil outlet design conditions will be changed to correct the problem.
**   ~~~   ** The initial design conditions are: Tair,in = 25.9845
**   ~~~   **                                    Wair,in = 1.167724E-002
**   ~~~   **                                    Twater,in = 7.2200
**   ~~~   **                                    Tair,out = 9.2200
**   ~~~   **                                    Wair,out = 6.585921E-003
**   ~~~   ** The revised design conditions are: Tair,out = 9.2195
**   ~~~   **                                    Wair,out = 6.586107E-003
** Warning ** In calculating the design coil UA for Coil:Cooling:Water HW CHW FOUR PIPE INDUCTION TERMINAL CHW CLG COIL 1
**   ~~~   ** the apparatus dew-point is below the coil design inlet water temperature;
**   ~~~   ** the coil outlet design conditions will be changed to correct the problem.
**   ~~~   ** The initial design conditions are: Tair,in = 25.9901
**   ~~~   **                                    Wair,in = 9.862493E-003
**   ~~~   **                                    Twater,in = 7.2200
**   ~~~   **                                    Tair,out = 9.2200
**   ~~~   **                                    Wair,out = 6.585921E-003
**   ~~~   ** The revised design conditions are: Tair,out = 9.2195
**   ~~~   **                                    Wair,out = 6.586107E-003
** Warning ** In calculating the design coil UA for Coil:Cooling:Water HW CHW FOUR PIPE INDUCTION TERMINAL CHW CLG COIL 3
**   ~~~   ** the apparatus dew-point is below the coil design inlet water temperature;
**   ~~~   ** the coil outlet design conditions will be changed to correct the problem.
**   ~~~   ** The initial design conditions are: Tair,in = 25.9832
**   ~~~   **                                    Wair,in = 9.506870E-003
**   ~~~   **                                    Twater,in = 7.2200
**   ~~~   **                                    Tair,out = 9.2200
**   ~~~   **                                    Wair,out = 6.585921E-003
**   ~~~   ** The revised design conditions are: Tair,out = 9.2195
**   ~~~   **                                    Wair,out = 6.586107E-003
** Warning ** Controller:MechanicalVentilation = "CONTROLLER MECHANICAL VENTILATION 2", Zone="THERMAL ZONE5-1".
**   ~~~   ** No "PEOPLE" object has been specified in the ...
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Elena Guidolin gravatar image Elena Guidolin  ( 2015-07-22 05:17:15 -0500 )edit

@Elena Guidolin please use existing tags whenever possible - e.g. "energyplus" not "energy+". Also, are you using OpenStudio? If not, please remove that tag. Thanks for helping to keep the site organized.

MatthewSteen gravatar image MatthewSteen  ( 2015-07-22 08:08:53 -0500 )edit

sorry for the "energy+" tag..it has been an oversight..how can I change it? And yes I'm using Openstudio for this project. Thank u for the support.

Elena Guidolin gravatar image Elena Guidolin  ( 2015-07-22 08:46:17 -0500 )edit

You can edit your question to change the tags or provide updates or additional information.

MatthewSteen gravatar image MatthewSteen  ( 2015-07-22 09:02:09 -0500 )edit

There is also a 'retag' if you only want to modify the tags.

__AmirRoth__ gravatar image __AmirRoth__  ( 2015-07-22 09:33:29 -0500 )edit

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answered 2015-07-30 21:35:02 -0500

I'm shooting from the hip here, but try switching over to "DetailedAnalysis".

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thank you for the help, changing the option now i see this severe error FindRootSimpleController: Controller error for controller = "CONTROLLER HEAT COIL HWHTG" * Environment=RUN PERIOD 1, at Simulation time=09/19 18:06 - 18:07 * Controller function is inconsistent with user specified controller action = Normal action * Actuator will be set to maximum action * Controller control type=Temperature * Controller temperature setpoint = 22.32 [C] * Controller sensed temperature = 22.24 [C] * Controller actuator mass flow rate set to 8.32E-002 [kg/s] * Controller actuator temperature..

Elena Guidolin gravatar image Elena Guidolin  ( 2015-08-05 08:51:01 -0500 )edit

Have you ever seen this error? What could it be?

Elena Guidolin gravatar image Elena Guidolin  ( 2015-08-05 08:51:54 -0500 )edit

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