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Accounting for low flow fixtures in DHW demand

asked 2015-06-24 14:37:52 -0500

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updated 2015-08-03 20:03:10 -0500

BEopt calculates hot water consumption based on the number of bedrooms using the Building America assumptions (house simulation protocols, tables 12 and 38). These tables list gpm assumptions and gallons/day assumptions but don't indicate what the relationship is between the two. I don't think it's linear since, for example, you fill your big pot for boiling pasta with the same amount of water regardless of the faucet flow rate. But the BEopt inputs are gallons/day of hot water for sinks, showers, and baths, so I'm looking for a way to get there from gpm. How do you do it?

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answered 2015-06-25 12:47:50 -0500

updated 2015-06-25 12:55:46 -0500

Sinks: I think it is too difficult to come up with a good relationship between gpm and gpd for sinks. For the cooking water example you mentioned (BTW, hot tap water should never be used for cooking or drinking), or filling a sink for washing dishes, as well as complications like waiting for hot water, it is difficult to justify much reduction in gpd for sink aerators. In the studies I've seen, the average reduction in in sink gpd was not statistically significant.

Showers:I think it is reasonable to assume a linear relationship between gpm and gpd. There are reasons that it wouldn't be linear: 1) the volume of hot water wasted waiting for the shower water to warm up would be fixed; 2) there may be some take-back where people take longer showers if their showerhead is low-flow; 3) some people take showers until the hot water runs out. These can probably be ignored for lack of good data. See Home Energy magazine article: http://www.homeenergy.org/show/articl...

Baths: N/A; Low-flow fixtures should not change bath water use

BEopt actually used to have low-flow fixtures as an option, but we took it out because of these complications.

Here are links to the studies I've seen:

  1. http://www.aquacraft.com/sites/defaul...
  2. http://www.aquacraft.com/sites/defaul...
  3. http://www.aquacraft.com/sites/defaul...
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Thanks for the answer!

The links to the studies give me 404 not found errors.

mpigman's avatar mpigman  ( 2015-06-25 13:06:33 -0500 )edit

Hmm, I didn't have those saved, so you'll have to see if you can find them posted elsewhere.

Eric Wilson's avatar Eric Wilson  ( 2015-06-25 13:44:13 -0500 )edit

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