Question-and-Answer Resource for the Building Energy Modeling Community
Get started with the Help page
Ask Your Question
2

Do present weather observations (e.g. rain, fog, snow fall) in weather file have any impact on simulated performance of PV solar panels and solar collectors ?

asked 2015-03-05 15:48:05 -0500

updated 2015-07-11 14:49:48 -0500

As is often the case, solar radiation for a site is estimated in weather files by the Zhang-Huang and Perez models (in the EP weather converter). However, if in addition there are present weather observations in the weather file, this would probably require EnergyPlus to calculate kind of superposition of effects, modifying the Zhang-Huang-Perez solar radiation estimates according to temporary rain, fog, snow fall etc. (?) It seems, however, that present weather observations (obscurations) do not have an influence on simulation results re. performance of solar panels/collectors, and that present weather observations in weather files will not add information which improves simulation results. Is this correct ? If not, how does EnergyPlus utilize these additional weather observations and calculate effects ?

edit retag flag offensive close merge delete

1 Answer

Sort by ยป oldest newest most voted
1

answered 2015-03-05 19:20:07 -0500

Joe Huang gravatar image

I don't think on general principles that EnergyPlus should incorporate climate modeling capabilities, as that could easily lead to double-counting and likely misuse (site-specific effects like shading from neighboring buildings and wind reductions due to terrain-factors excepted). I'm not so concerned about certain parameters on the weather file not being used in deriving solar radiation. That doesn't mean their effects are ignored, just that they're expressed in other parameters, chiefly the Sky Cloud Cover. When there's rain, fog, snow, etc., the Sky Cloud Cover should be 0. You might argue that Cloud Cover 0 + Rain, Fog, etc. should reduce Solar Radiation even more, but how much more? You'd need to get some good measured solar plus weather station observations and then add those additional terms to the regression which, if you're using Z-H, already has 4 (Cloud Cover, Temp Rise, Wind Speed, and RH). I have no idea how much would be the improvement, if any.

edit flag offensive delete link more

Comments

(1) So this seems to confirm that if present weather observations are omitted in the weather file, it will not affect solar radiation estimates (correct ?) (2) How is Sky Cloud Cover defined in the Z-H model ? originally I expected that Overcast=100% sky cover corresponding to CC=1 and Clear Sky = 0% sky cover correspondig to CC=0 This is necessary to know if custom weather input files are created and more generally when interpreting simulation results.

OS-user-AT gravatar imageOS-user-AT ( 2015-03-06 14:42:32 -0500 )edit

Your Answer

Please start posting anonymously - your entry will be published after you log in or create a new account.

Add Answer

 



Question Tools

1 follower

Stats

Asked: 2015-03-05 15:48:05 -0500

Seen: 106 times

Last updated: Mar 05 '15