Question-and-Answer Resource for the Building Energy Modeling Community
Get started with the Help page
Ask Your Question
2

Water Source VRF System Curve

asked 2017-06-07 13:25:47 -0600

BL's avatar

I created VRF system from OS then export the IDF and changed the condenser type as water cooled, condenser inlet and outlet node name is updated as well.

However, when I try to update the performance curve, eg Cooling/Heating Capacity Ratio Modifier Function of High/Low Temperature Curve or Cooling/Heating Energy Input Ratio Modifier Function of HIgh/Low Ratio curve, those functions require coil entering wet bulb temp and condenser air dry-bulb temp as variables. For condenser type:water cooled, it is condenser water entering temp available not condenser airy dry-bulb temp.

How can I update the performance curve since they require different independent variables ? Will the E+ automatically assume it is condenser water entering temp if water cool is selected ? image description

image description

edit retag flag offensive close merge delete

1 Answer

Sort by ยป oldest newest most voted
1

answered 2017-06-07 14:51:07 -0600

You should use the performance curve coefficients for condenser water entering temperature if you are modeling a water-cooled condenser.

From the Input-Output Reference for the AirConditioner:VariableRefrigerantFlow object:

image description

From the Engineering Reference for the same object:image description

That information leads me to believe that EnergyPlus has the capability to model water-cooled condensers for VRF systems. I agree with you that the documentation for the Cooling Capacity Ratio Modifier Function of Low Temperature Curve Name input field you referenced is not clear and makes it seem like it will only use outdoor air dry-bulb. However, after digging around in the source code, I am confident in telling you that the VRF condenser inlet will use the water node you assign and not outdoor air dry-bulb IF you have specified WaterCooled in the Condenser Type input field.

edit flag offensive delete link more

Comments

@Aaron Boranian Thank you very much, Aaron !

BL's avatar BL  ( 2017-06-07 14:54:58 -0600 )edit

I have been working on a water-cooled VRF model in E+ and finding issues with heating at low outdoor air temperatures. It seems like the system should be using the condenser water node, but the heating capacity is decreases significantly at low OA temps. Modifying the capacity curve does not seem to help. Any ideas?

Tim Johnson's avatar Tim Johnson  ( 2017-12-04 10:53:02 -0600 )edit

@Tim Johnson if you're still having issues, feel free to email me to discuss details and potentially send your IDF

Aaron Boranian's avatar Aaron Boranian  ( 2017-12-12 12:45:14 -0600 )edit

Your Answer

Please start posting anonymously - your entry will be published after you log in or create a new account.

Add Answer

Training Workshops

Careers

Question Tools

1 follower

Stats

Asked: 2017-06-07 13:25:47 -0600

Seen: 499 times

Last updated: Jun 07 '17