Question-and-Answer Resource for the Building Energy Modeling Community
Get started with the Help page
Ask Your Question

Exterior Shading in CBECC-Com

asked 2017-04-25 11:29:13 -0500

updated 2017-08-06 16:20:20 -0500

I am working on a CBECC-Com 2013-3e model review. Exterior shading surfaces were created by right-clicking on a zone, and selecting "create" -> "external shading object". The shades then show up as blue icons beneath that zone:

image description

The odd thing is that I noticed that when I move these shades to a different space- the actual spaces they are shading- the results of the simulation changed. This seems odd to me since these are coordinate-based shading surfaces, so theoretically it shouldn't matter where they are in the model.

Next I also tried adding shades on the windows themselves using the "define window shades" option:

image description

This also yielded very different results. Though when I look into OpenStudio or the .idf file, both of the above options for creating shades is creating a "shading:zone:detailed" object. I thought maybe the first option above was using a "shading:site" or "shading:building" object.

Has anyone seen this before or does anyone have theories or ideas for the discrepancies?

edit retag flag offensive close merge delete


I'm thinking this has to do with relative/world coordinates, and CBECC-Com uses relative coordinates. I'll keep digging.

Anna Osborne Brannon's avatar Anna Osborne Brannon  ( 2017-04-25 11:48:00 -0500 )edit

@Anna Osborne Brannon what model files do you have access to? It doesn't look like OSM files have an object to set relative vs. absolute coordinates, but IDF files have the GlobalGeometryRules object that sets relative vs. absolute coordinates. If you can find the IDF generated by CBECC-Com, look for that object. If you can only find the OSM generated, then run the OSM in OpenStudio to generate the IDF first, then look for that object.

Aaron Boranian's avatar Aaron Boranian  ( 2017-04-25 12:07:17 -0500 )edit

1 Answer

Sort by ยป oldest newest most voted

answered 2017-04-25 13:20:46 -0500

I figured it out- the model was raised up by 13 ft and the shades were defined to start at the height of the wall (28 ft), not at the elevation of the building (41 ft). This caused the shades to stop in the middle of the building.

edit flag offensive delete link more

Your Answer

Please start posting anonymously - your entry will be published after you log in or create a new account.

Add Answer

Training Workshops


Question Tools

1 follower


Asked: 2017-04-25 11:29:13 -0500

Seen: 258 times

Last updated: Apr 25 '17