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Motor In Airstream fraction is acting weird

asked 7 years ago

Kingo's avatar

updated 7 years ago

Hi

Found a weird thing with the Mortor in Airstream fraction that is input for Fans in OpenStudio. From what i understand, when the value is 0, it should not provide any heat to the airstream. But that is not the case, which made me wonder if something is wrong when it translated into the idf file.

I also noticed that there is a small difference between setting it to 1 or 0. But it still gain some heat from the fan, so is that cause by something else? The two examples are shown in the figures below:

Motor In Airstream Fraction = 0.0 image description

Motor In Airstream Fraction = 1.0 image description

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Hope someone can enlighten me :)

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answered 7 years ago

Adam Hilton's avatar

updated 7 years ago

From the engineering reference...

Qtoair=Hfan+(HmotorHfan)fmotortoair

While not discussed in the fan section, I assume it's the same logic as pumps. Any shaft power is eventually realized as heat to the fluid due to friction losses. I'm not actually a fan of that because in the real world, you're not controlling to those losses because that heat would be added after any kind of discharge air controller.

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Are you sure you didn't mean to have Qtoair=Hfan+(HtotHfan)fmotortoair? I could be misinterpreting your notation but the way you have it written if fmotortoair=1 you would have Qtoair=Hmotor but if the motor is totally in the air stream I believe you should have Qtoair=Htot.

Jeremy's avatar Jeremy  ( 7 years ago )

Hmotor=Htot Hmotor=Hfan/ηbelt/ηmotor

Adam Hilton's avatar Adam Hilton  ( 7 years ago )
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answered 7 years ago

kpp's avatar

updated 7 years ago

This is interesting. As Adam mentioned, I checked the equations in 17.4 Air System Fans. From the equations (17.131 to 17.136), even if f_motortoair is 0, it does not imply the Q_toAir variable is 0, therefore, the enthalpy of air at the outlet is not equal to enthalpy at the inlet. (check the derived equations in image)

h_out > h_in

The psychrometric function (eq. 17.136) calculates fan outlet drybulb temperature higher than the inlet fan air temperature. Therefore even if f_motortoair = 0, there is addition of heat and T_out > T_in.

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