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Why is the sun position not translated into the solar heat gain in different facing rooms?

asked 2024-10-20 19:04:59 -0600

Fardin_in_E+'s avatar

updated 2024-10-21 12:56:13 -0600

Hello. I'm using Energyplus 9.2 on a building model (located in NY) that has different windows facing all 4 directions. I have been trying to observe several parameters. The sunrise and sunset is at 60 degrees to 330 degrees (0 degree is at North). So,

  1. We should observe high solar gain on the south window all day long than the north window. But the obtained values suggest that only there is only 10% difference South>North. Shouldn't we expect more?
  2. The (total) solar radiation heat gain exactly follows the site radiation curve of the day, but shouldn't we expect more heat in the morning at East and at West in the afternoon? The values don't say so (east>west consistently by 8-15%.

List of Parameters I have tried:

  • Surface Outside Face Incident Solar Radiation Rate per Area,hourly; !- Zone Average [W/m2]
  • Surface Window Transmitted Solar Radiation Rate,hourly; !- Zone Average [W]
  • Surface Inside Face System Radiation Heat Gain Rate per Area,hourly; !- Zone Average [W/m2] I evaluate them at each timestep, not hourly.

Link to the IDF: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11NUe...

I used Albany, NY weather file and referred to www.suncalc.org for sun position references. Thanks in advance.

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@Fardin_in_E+ can you upload your input file to Dropbox, Google Drive, or something similar and share a URL? That would allow others to review your model inputs.

Aaron Boranian's avatar Aaron Boranian  ( 2024-10-21 12:22:00 -0600 )edit

Sure. Please visit the Gdrive link for the IDF: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11NUe...

I used Albany, NY weather file and referred to www.suncalc.org for sun position references. Thanks.

Fardin_in_E+'s avatar Fardin_in_E+  ( 2024-10-21 12:51:02 -0600 )edit
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As a quick question - I see you have the RunPeriod set to only a single day. If that day is very overcast it could potentially explain the results? Or is this lack of difference something you see throughout the whole year?

Jamie Sullivan's avatar Jamie Sullivan  ( 2024-10-21 21:09:18 -0600 )edit

I have checked the solar radiation before choosing that day for the simulation. It is a typical bell-shaped curve.

Fardin_in_E+'s avatar Fardin_in_E+  ( 2024-10-21 23:01:39 -0600 )edit

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answered 2024-10-22 15:40:31 -0600

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Ah, I see what the problem is - if we pull the model into OpenStudio we can see that a bunch of the external walls are facing the wrong way. The north and south walls are the same because they're both facing south. If you're using the sketchup plugin you could just reverse the surface normals to fix this. Alternatively iirc you'd need to reverse the order of the vertices for those walls.

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thanks a lot. I have tried that and it worked like wonders! The problem is solved.

Confused_Ungabunga's avatar Confused_Ungabunga  ( 2024-10-24 21:08:09 -0600 )edit

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