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a gap between two zones or with the shade surface

asked 2024-09-26 08:43:42 -0500

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updated 2024-09-26 09:47:29 -0500

as recommended here, I used the internal coordinates of the floor to give the zone geometry. same as the walls.

I look at the model in visualization under OpenStuio, and as expected, there is a gap between two floors and between two zones or between two zones in the same floor. there is also a gap between an external wall and the shade surface next to it.

When I run the model, is the sun go trough this gaps? Hope it is not stupid question image description

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@RobinCris can you add an image to your post to show these gaps?

Aaron Boranian's avatar Aaron Boranian  ( 2024-09-26 09:41:17 -0500 )edit

@Aaron Boranian Yes.Of course. Sorry for forgetting. I just edited the original post

RobinCris's avatar RobinCris  ( 2024-09-26 09:47:33 -0500 )edit

"When I run the model, is the sun go trough this gaps?" No, it won't. The sun will only go through windows, skylights, etc.

shorowit's avatar shorowit  ( 2024-09-26 12:43:06 -0500 )edit

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answered 2024-09-26 11:28:02 -0500

"as recommended here," ... where's here? UMH? A missing link to a specific building energy code/standard requirement, perhaps?

From the image, the spaces are clearly not hermetic (i.e. not enclosed). This will generate a number of OpenStudio & EnergyPlus errors and warnings, which in turn will create more work for you (e.g. explicitly setting space heights, volumes). The general recommendation is to ensure your spaces are enclosed, with interzone surfaces shared between adjacent spaces. This means not seeing such gaps between surfaces.

Building energy codes/standards do have different requirements when it comes to space geometry delineations. For instance, 90.1 requires that spaces shall be (in part) defined by the outside face of exterior walls. Other codes instead require the inside face of exterior walls. Yet most would require interzone walls (i.e. common to 2 adjacent spaces) to be drawn along the wall centreline (i.e. no gaps). Same with floors: should be modelled along the top of the floor slab - the adjacent ceiling below should be a mirrored copy of the floor surface (i.e. no gaps, ignoring slab thickness).

I have seen imported IFC models where gaps do exist between otherwise enclosed spaces, which generally require resorting to adiabatic boundary conditions for nearly interzone surfaces. Not ideal, but should work.

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